Wednesday, August 1, 2018

Clarification on business vs entrepreneur


This seems obvious. It also seems arrogant to some. But it is just a genuine (possibly rhetorical) question, to make a point on a view I have and hopefully debate and learn.TLDR; Q: What is the difference between r/Entrepreneur and r/business? Or, what is the difference between entrepreneurism (besides that its not a real word) and business?Long (boring) versionMy opinion, well, first, my brief background:I am a Mechanical Engineer with masters degree who worked as a professional in the power generation industry for 10 years and then emigrated to the US recently, half (unsuccessfully) looking for a job and half (looking at starting a company). I have too many eggs in too many baskets. I have done Udacity's Self Driving Car and FullStack Developer Nanodegrees, and learned with pramp and 'cracking the coding interview' to appreciate data structures and algorithms and the kinds of problems developers must solve. So I can code and build stuff. I like data (eveyone does) and have spent a lot of time building stuff with tableau public. My money I have saved (not a lot, when converted to USD from my '3rd world' upbringing) is all in Tesla, as it is the most logical place to put it (please don't debate me on that in this forum - just sharing my background).I want to build a company and understand the obvious leveraging that software allows one. But no matter where I go, from indiehackers, to reddit, everything about entrepreneurism is either: start with basics mow lawns, and then buy the mowers and have a yard service to........... make billions!The the only thing in between are not tangible - seo, marketing, saas, following leads, productivity apps, selling courses on online marketing and branding, selling courses on coding interviews, selling courses on self improvement, etc. Anyway, I am not selling anything and have nothing to get you onto (I do have a tangible business which I hope will work, but who knows).My point is that there seems to be a problem in that people could make businesses and the mental distinction between business and entrepreneur just hurts everyone, especially entrepreneurs. It should be the same group with the same challenges, because they are the same thing imo (obviously not exactly the same thing, but I have taken a long time to make the point, so I am leaving it there). There could be a lot more discussion on middle stage businesses and the owners and their tactics, or when discussing businesses in this subreddit, also hold the owners and managers of the businesses to account, as important factors - this seems obvious but I don't see it happening. If allowed, I will copy and paste this as is in r/Entrepreneur as well.I will obviously get distracting comments (making a joke of my point or background description, which is fine) and offended comments (from those selling courses and seo companies, etc) but hopefully I will get some useful comments/ insight on the general idea I am getting across, even if I have done it badly, and hopefully some discussion on that for some people's benefit.EDIT: The motivation behind me ask this question is that there are thousands of posts, podcasts, courses on'dropshipping' - read: I don't make the product, I dont do the delivering, I don't do anything of value except tweak the connection between the suppliers and the purchaser.'branding, marketing - read: I don't make something people love, but I know how to manipulate social media and expertly place my ads in the right place to get the most 'clicks'.'selling courses'.All of the above is fine, but isn't the heart of business and entrepreneurship making cool things that people want. Like you don't have to be musk, but you can still make something cool. Millions do, and I plan to/ am busy. And its really really hard, and I just thought that there would be a LOT more discussion on this. IndieHackers, and people like Peter Levels was for me great initially, but most of their content is now just the same seo-ish stuff. via /r/business https://ift.tt/2LJQjGR

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